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In this episode, Host Erik Fleming lights up the Hot Mic with his take on the Louisiana v. Callais ruling.
Erik Fleming delivers a solo episode responding to the Supreme Court's recent decision that weakens protections under the Voting Rights Act, using the Louisiana case as a springboard to explain historical roots, gerrymandering, and the broader threat to Black political representation.
He mixes legal context, personal reflection, and a call to action—urging listeners to stay engaged, support independent media, and keep fighting for voter protections.
00:05 - Welcome to A Moment with Erik Fleming
01:14 - NBG Podcast Network Introduction
02:00 - Solo Reflections and Etiquette
04:19 - Moment of News with Grace G
06:50 - Hot Mic on Supreme Court Decision
07:19 - Impact of Voting Rights Act
16:54 - The Fight for Representation
20:51 - Gerrymandering and Its Consequences
22:32 - Political Landscape in the South
27:57 - The Role of Black Republicans
30:10 - Historical Context of Race
32:54 - The Assignment of Advocacy
39:13 - Activist Judges and Political Influence
40:58 - The Fight for Rights and Freedom
43:34 - Perseverance in the Face of Adversity
45:12 - The Call for Freedom
48:40 - The Emotional Fight for Justice
50:27 - The Future of Black Representation
56:12 - The Ongoing Struggle for Equality
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Hello. Welcome to Another Bone with Erik Fleming. I am your host, Erik Fleming.
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So, I don't have any guests this week, so it's not my fault.
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You know, and that's, I guess that's just something I have to deal with.
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But, you know, I think we've gotten to a point where,
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We've forgotten everything about etiquette and rules and consideration.
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And that's going to lead to my commentary later on. But from a personal aspect, I think that,
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you know, if people cannot fulfill obligations, then they should be courteous
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enough to let you know. Some people did.
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Some people do. Some people don't. and then they take umbrage if you reach out
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to them to try to find out what happened.
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You know, I don't know. You know, I was just brought up to be considerate of people's time.
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What you might not think is important is probably greatly important to the person
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that you're disrespecting.
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And, you know, it is what it is.
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I just think, and that's endemic of the political climate that we're in.
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I think people have just lost respect.
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But again, I'll get into that, into the commentary. Right now,
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just want to reach out to folks.
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Anyway, so please do that. All right, let's go ahead and kick this off.
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And as always, we kick it off with a moment of news for Grace G.
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Thanks, Erik. The U.S. Supreme Court's conservative majority weakened a key
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provision of the Voting Rights Act by blocking a second Black majority district in Louisiana.
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Governor Jeff Landry suspended Louisiana's May 16th congressional primary to
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allow the Republican-led legislature to redraw voting boundaries after the U.S.
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Supreme Court ruled the state's map illegal.
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Florida Republicans approved a new congressional map designed by Governor Ron
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DeSantis to significantly bolster the GOP's chances of keeping control of the U.S. House.
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President Trump signed a funding bill ending an 11-week partial shutdown for
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non-immigration-related DHS agencies like the TSA and FEMA, though funding for
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border enforcement remains excluded from the deal.
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President Trump and the First Lady were evacuated from the White House Correspondents
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Association dinner after a gunman opened fire on security personnel at a checkpoint,
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leading to the suspect's arrest and the event's cancellation.
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King Charles addressed the U.S.
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Congress to assert that the U.K. and U.S.
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Remain steadfast allies dedicated to democracy, even amid significant diplomatic
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friction regarding the conflict with Iran. The U.S.
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Justice Department has filed criminal charges against former FBI Director James
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Comey, alleging he threatened President Trump through a social media photo of seashells.
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Federal prosecutors in Chicago have dropped felony conspiracy charges against
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four immigration protesters, though the defendants still face misdemeanor charges
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for their actions at a detention facility.
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The Trump administration has announced plans to introduce firing squads,
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electrocution, and gas asphyxiation as alternative federal execution methods.
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Maine Governor Janet Mills ended her campaign for the United States Senate,
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citing a lack of financial resources.
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And the U.S. Department of Justice is fast-tracking the reclassification of
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marijuana to a less restrictive drug category.
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I am Grace G., and this has been a Moment of News.
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Thank you, Grace, for that moment of news. And now stay tuned for my hot mic
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on the Supreme Court decision.
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All right. So I'm back.
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And so, of course, everybody has been talking about this Supreme Court decision,
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which has basically put the final nail on the coffin with the Voting Rights Act.
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Now, when we say that, people can say that's hyperbole because the act is still law.
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The problem is, is that we have a mindset,
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especially in the court system, that has been building since 1965 when this
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passed to figure out a way to take the teeth out of it.
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And one person in particular is the Chief Justice, John Roberts,
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who it's been his lifelong crusade.
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It's almost like his whole legal journey has been to be put in a place where
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he could defang the Voting Rights Act.
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And he started it in 2013, his first opportunity, and he's been on the court
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long enough now, the chief justice long enough now, to, as we say,
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put the final nail on the coffin.
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What the court did was it basically said that majority-minority congressional
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districts created with the intent of ensuring minority voters could elect candidates
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of their choice was unconstitutional.
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It violated the spirit of the 14th and the 15th Amendment.
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So those were the amendments that gave Black people citizenship and the right to vote, right?
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And this district that they were talking about was a district that was created
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because a judge, a federal judge in Louisiana,
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felt that Black people were not being fairly represented in Congress.
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Her argument over the basis of her ruling was that one-third of the state's
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population in Louisiana is black, and they have six congressional districts,
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and there was only one black congressional district.
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So her instruction was, whatever map that you present from this point forward,
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because I'm throwing this one out.
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Whatever map you present has to have the opportunity for two African-Americans
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to be elected in the state of Louisiana.
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And so Louisiana did that.
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They came up with a map which created two black districts.
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And the 6th District, which is the one that's in question, is almost like a
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straight line right in the cutting diagonal across the state of Louisiana, right?
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And that created enough of a Black voting age population to elect a Black person
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to serve in Congress, and that person is serving right now.
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So the Supreme Court has, over these last few years, figured out a way to,
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under the guise of constitutional law, figured out a way to carry out an insidious
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plan that started in a memo in 1972, right?
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If you don't understand what I'm talking about, look up Powell Memo 1972.
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That's where all this stuff, and by the way, Powell ended up serving on the
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Supreme Court, this guy.
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So from that moment, about a year after he wrote the memo, he got appointed to the Supreme Court.
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So from that moment, that's been the playbook as far as policy,
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judicial appointments, right?
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The voting strategy started in 68 after George Wallace secured a lot of Southern
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whites who were disenfranchised by the Democratic Party because of Lyndon Bain
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Johnson and the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.
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And those Democrats switched and became Republicans in the South.
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And you already had a division between Northern and Southern Democrats anyway.
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Well, now that division was gone because the Southern Democrats,
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the Dixiecrats, the state's rights folks, they signed up with the Republican Party.
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And by 1980, their plan was complete when Toronto Reagan won.
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The president's, right?
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And in 1984, he had this incredible 49-stake landslide, right?
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So, but the policy part and the legal packing of the courts and all that stuff started in 72.
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So all this was under Richard Nixon, right?
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Nixon won in spite of votes being siphoned away that he thought he could get.
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But since a lot of those votes had traditionally voted Democrat,
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Hubert Humphrey probably thought those votes were being siphoned away from him. Nonetheless.
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So what we are seeing now in 2026 is a culmination of all that stuff.
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So it's been years and years of planning and strategizing and map drawing and
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legislative creating, all that, you know,
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crafting legislation, however you want to put it, all this stuff, right?
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And there's only one root for all of this, and that is white folks wanting to
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maintain control, especially in the South.
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Not frowned upon in the North and not frowned upon in the West,
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but it's definitely because if there wasn't a crusade to protect white power,
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then more black people would be elected to office than they are now.
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The majority of the black population lives in the South, right?
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You take away the urban centers like Chicago, New York, L.A.
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You take away those cities, this is where black people are concentrated.
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And that's the way it was enslavement.
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That's why the compromise in the Constitution was the three-fifths clause.
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So for those arrogant white folks that want to spout to their constitutional
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lawyers or historians and all that,
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and then, like, try to ignore the history and the constitutionality of this
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bullshit that they've been doing,
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then they can miss me with that.
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And they can miss all of us with that.
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Doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Latino. You know,
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there's some folks out here that are saying that this court ruling and everything
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else that's led up to it is legitimate.
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They're just feeding you bullshit, wrapped up in white privilege intellect.
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That's all it is. For...
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You know, I'm not a lawyer. I don't pretend to be a lawyer.
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But having the privilege of, for nine years, being in a position to actually
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make laws, you kind of get someone, and being involved in lawsuits,
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you kind of get a working man's understanding.
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And the thing that kills me about this Louisiana case that challenged the new
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map, because that's how we got this case.
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After that judge forced the legislature to do that, then they had the elections in 24.
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Now, they tried, this group of folks tried to stop the election in 24.
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And Supreme Court said, well, no, we're not going to deal with it now because
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it's too close to the election.
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So they wanted to revisit it, and they had two sets of oral arguments for this in 2025.
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Normally, it's just one day set aside for the oral arguments,
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get that documented, and then the lawyers and the law clerks and the justices make their decisions,
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do their research, allegedly, whatever. Yeah.
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And the issue about standing because
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they said it was a group of non-African-American voters in Louisiana.
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So let's narrow that down. If it was a group of Asian and Latino voters that
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said that there shouldn't be a second black congressional district,
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that'd be an interesting.
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And it'd be an interesting to understand that they feel that they should have
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it or creating a new black district, but deny them the opportunity to even run. I don't know.
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But anybody white that was a party to the lawsuit didn't have standing.
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See, at least the Asians and Latinos would have standing because they are actually
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a minority that covers and falls under the protection of the Voting Rights Act.
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But any white person in Louisiana that filed a lawsuit, they don't have standing
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because the provision was designed for protection of minorities.
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And as of right now, the majority of the population in the state of Louisiana is white.
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So if black people were fighting and saying we don't need this black district, they had standing.
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If Latinos or Asians said they don't want this district, they have standing.
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But white folks do not because they're not a minority in any state,
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not even Hawaii, not anymore.
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Right? They might be still a minority in Hawaii. But in the mainland United
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States, every state, white people are the majority.
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Like you said, in the South, high percentages.
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Mississippi has the highest percentage. It's basically at 40%. Louisiana is a third.
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Alabama is 30%. Georgia is in the 30s. Right? South Carolina.
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If they're not in the 30s, they're in the high 20s.
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Southern states, the descendants of slaves, whether the kids moved north and
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the grandkids came back, pretty
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much the epicenter of black culture in America comes from the south.
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So if, based on the political climate,
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the New York Times projected that if southern leadership,
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which is primarily Republican in the Southern states as far as the governatorial,
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the governorship and the majorities in the legislature,
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Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia,
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South Carolina, Arkansas, Louisiana, all them in Florida, they're all majority
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Republican and have a Republican governor, all of them.
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And so Georgia's the only state that's purple. It used to be Florida,
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now it's Georgia, right?
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Because they have some statewide people or have had within the last decade statewide Democrats.
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Georgia has two U.S. senators. They got seven white men in the state constitution
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offices, but they have two U.S.
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Senators, somebody of Jewish descent, and somebody black.
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So the senators are not impacted by the U.S.
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Senators because they have to run statewide. So there's no district defining them.
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I remember when I ran for the U.S. Senate, people could have asked me,
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are you running for the northern half or the southern half? I had to break it
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down. No, no, it's statewide.
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All the counties vote.
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Congressional district votes for the U.S. senator. So, gerrymandering doesn't impact U.S.
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Senators, but gerrymandering impacts are the House of Representatives and the
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state legislatures, right?
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Some states get around it at the state level by saying they just draw Senate
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districts and then you pick so many representatives out of that Senate district to comprise the House.
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But then the gerrymandering falls into the Senate, right?
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Nebraska, they only have their unicameral. They only have one chamber, and that's the Senate.
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So it is what it is there. But everybody else is what we call bicameral.
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They have a House and a Senate.
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And so most of those states draw the lines for the House districts and the Senate districts.
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And then they draw the lines for the judicial districts, whether it's state
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courts or the state Supreme Court or the appellate court.
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In Mississippi, the appellate and, well,
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it used to be the appellate and Supreme Court had different districts because
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the appellate court still drew their lines based on when Mississippi had five
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congressional districts.
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Supreme Court devised the state up north, south, central.
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And then it's always kind of the game, which counties are determined southern
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and which counties are determined northern and that the rest of the counties
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fall into central. Right.
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Because of those maps, we've managed to get, because Mississippi is the only
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state that has a transportation commission.
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So now there's a black person on the transportation commission.
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There are black people on the appellate court. There are black people on the
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Supreme Court. And we have a black person on the public service commission.
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All of those folks come from the central district, which is the blackest district of the three.
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But now they can play with that based on this Supreme Court ruling.
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And what I was getting ready to say when I went down this rabbit hole was that
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the New York Times came up with a map.
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It said, but based on this ruling, 13 districts that have Democratic representation
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can be wiped out by the state legislators in the South. 13.
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Mississippi would not have one. Alabama would not have one.
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Georgia would have maybe two African-American districts.
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And I think it's either North Carolina or South Carolina would have one.
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That's it. Because as the old saying goes, Katie barred a door because it's
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open. And that's what they wanted.
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This is what they've always wanted.
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They wanted to be able, just like they did after Reconstruction,
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to wipe out black political power.
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Us having any say-so in any political affairs. None.
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I don't care if they tell you they got black friends. I don't care if they try
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to flip it around and say, well, you know, black folks didn't support black
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Republicans that ran, which I responded to one guy when he said that.
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I said, you know, black folks fought for the British in the American Revolution.
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And there were some black folks that fought for the Confederacy and the Civil War.
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So you can miss me with that historical gaslighting.
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Nobody cares about that.
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Because if you're a Black person that supports what Donald Trump wants,
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that's not in the interest of Black people. It doesn't matter if you are my neighbor.
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If you support the policies of Donald Trump, no diversity, equity,
00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:27.550
or inclusion, no safeguards for voter protection, no representation in Congress
00:24:27.550 --> 00:24:29.350
or in the state legislature.
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You support that. I don't care what color you are. I'm not on your side.
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No, I'm not going to support you.
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Now, what you as the listening audience do or what other people do, that's on you.
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But I'm not going to do that because my generation was like all skin folks ain't kin folks. Thank you.
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That. We took pride when people got elected to office.
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We understand that our grandparents voted Republican, so a lot of our pioneering
00:25:03.621 --> 00:25:06.781
Black elected officials were Republican. We get that.
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But that was history, and this is now.
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And in the political climate we're in now, if you're Black and you're Republican,
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then I am not the spokesperson for Black people.
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I can only speak for myself and what I believe is the best interest for black people and you're not it.
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When you're one of four black Republicans and by the way they're all leaving
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because two of them at least two of them ran for higher office one has a chance
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to win the other one did not win in the primary,
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and the other two just said enough of this I'm out.
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As a matter of fact The one in California might have been drawn out when they
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voted to redo the lines there, which I'll get to in a second.
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So the four black Republicans are going to be gone next session.
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Now, if somebody black Republican gets elected in the 26th election,
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which is kind of looking like a long shot at this point based on the dynamics.
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But if nobody gets elected, then there will be no black Republicans in the next session of Congress.
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So the black Republican that ran for U.S. Senate in Texas, Mr.
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Hunt, was asked about this decision.
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And somebody brought up the fact that, well, there's not going to be any black
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Republicans next time around.
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His exact words were, I don't care.
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This is a black man. You don't care.
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A black Republican? I can understand if you don't care about Democrats because
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you don't agree with what we say.
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But you don't care if there's not another person like you carrying the torch?
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See, that's why I say those folks missed the assignment, right?
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Because Maka Evers' brother, who was a big supporter of Robert F. Kennedy Sr.
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When he ran for president in 68, basically became a Republican later on in life.
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But his mantra always was, I'm a black man first, then I'm a Republican.
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And his mission was, if you want black votes in Mississippi,
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you got to address some needs.
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And when we would come on his show, he would ask us as Democrats,
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what are you doing to help black folks?
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Period. and he would support some of us, right?
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Primarily the ones that were invited to come on the show. You know, he liked us.
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He didn't agree with us all the time, but he knew where our heart was.
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And that's the mission. The reason why we're in the Democratic Party is because
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for some reason, especially since 1965,
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seems like we get more of a response from the Democratic Party than we do the Republican Party.
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Now, an ideal situation would be that we would be able to walk in any Oval Office,
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Democrat, Republican, Green, it don't matter, and say, this is what Black folks
00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:29.570
need right now. This is what we need long-term.
00:28:31.343 --> 00:28:35.083
To walk up to any member of Congress and say, this is what we need.
00:28:35.543 --> 00:28:40.743
We need you to vote for that bill, or we need you to kill that bill, right?
00:28:41.523 --> 00:28:46.123
Any state legislature, black folks ought to be able to walk in their Capitol
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building in their respective states and say, hey, look, this is what we need.
00:28:49.723 --> 00:28:54.903
But when you got one party that's not making any effort to even acknowledge,
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let alone listen, it kind of narrows the options.
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But even with that dynamic, we had four. And one of them said,
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I don't care if there's ever another one.
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You missed the assignment, brother. You missed the assignment.
00:29:11.223 --> 00:29:14.803
You should always care about a black presence. As a matter of fact,
00:29:15.083 --> 00:29:19.943
you should want the majority of the black caucus to be like you.
00:29:20.763 --> 00:29:25.043
I get the argument, oh, it's all about merit. It's not about the color of the
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skin. It's the content of the character.
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It's also about life experience and culture and history.
00:29:33.603 --> 00:29:40.083
When you look at the dynamics of what has been happening in America since the
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1660s, when they came up with this concept of race, right?
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All this time, laws have been formulated based off of that concept.
00:29:52.141 --> 00:29:57.501
And if the less pigmentation you had, better off you were going to be,
00:29:57.881 --> 00:30:00.181
the more privilege you were going to have.
00:30:00.341 --> 00:30:04.501
That's where we get this term white privilege from. It's based off of the dynamics
00:30:04.501 --> 00:30:10.241
that started after Bacon's rebellion in the 1660s.
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Look that up, right? I was in Virginia.
00:30:14.041 --> 00:30:20.381
Before we were, before the British and the French, the French Indian War,
00:30:20.501 --> 00:30:27.441
before that happened, race was on the books in what we now call America.
00:30:28.121 --> 00:30:34.461
And everything stems from that, the justification for chattel slavery.
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All that derives from creating this false superiority argument.
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And everything, every ruling that this conservative court makes.
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Terms of voting, you know, as a matter of fact, this is how crazy they are.
00:30:55.989 --> 00:31:03.109
They made a ruling that Alabama should have two congressional districts, right?
00:31:03.489 --> 00:31:10.949
And now based on this ruling, that might overturn that one that they just made a year earlier.
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They said, based on the population Alabama should have two, they agreed with
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the court, the lower court on that.
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And Alabama, their legislature has been openly trying to defy the Supreme Court
00:31:24.929 --> 00:31:28.029
ever since they said, no, they should have to.
00:31:28.669 --> 00:31:34.849
But when Louisiana said it, I know, no. That's going too far.
00:31:35.849 --> 00:31:41.909
Now, Clarence Thomas, a black man, has been consistent because he dissented,
00:31:42.569 --> 00:31:49.129
against the ruling for Alabama. he co-authored the majority opinion.
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In this last case the official name of it is Louisiana versus Calais it's the
00:31:59.369 --> 00:32:01.509
official name of this decision that just happened,
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you know he was down with Shelby versus Holder,
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he didn't even want to have the second oral argument for Louisiana versus Calais,
00:32:15.349 --> 00:32:19.409
They voted on whether they should do it, and he was the lone dissenting vote
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on having a second day of oral argument.
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That's how made up his mind was.
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So, and Ann Clarence just took me off of a track just thinking of that, right?
00:32:34.829 --> 00:32:38.329
But that's another guy who doesn't understand the assignment.
00:32:39.189 --> 00:32:43.689
You know, and they all say, well, what about people like Thomas Sewell and...
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They get the assignment. None of us said that there's not a conservative argument
00:32:51.360 --> 00:32:54.320
for black liberation. None of us said that.
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:01.640
They try to make it. Whether we agree with that, that's a philosophical difference.
00:33:02.100 --> 00:33:10.840
But they always got the assignment. They knew that black folks have to do better in this nation, period.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:15.080
And they felt that a conservative argument was the way to go.
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.820
There's us that believe a liberal argument, just like Booker T.
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:24.420
Washington believed that there was a need for us to be segregated so we could
00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:26.680
thrive in peace. And W.B.
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Du Bois was like, I know if I want to go to Harvard, I should go.
00:33:32.380 --> 00:33:36.000
If I want to go to Woolworths and eat at the counter, I should.
00:33:36.820 --> 00:33:41.680
But I also have the choice if I just want to support black businesses, I can. man.
00:33:42.740 --> 00:33:47.040
And Booker D was like, nah, brother, just stay at home. Don't even worry about them white folk.
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We can do it. Whatever we need, we can make happen. And they're both right.
00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.020
Tuskegee Institute is still open. Fiske University is still open. They're both right.
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.340
Clark Atlanta, still open. They were both right.
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:11.920
We can do our own thing, but we have the right to choose whatever path we want
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:18.780
to go, which is why it's okay for Black people to be Republican.
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.580
That's a choice. You have the freedom to do that.
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.280
My challenge to anybody that wants to identify with any political party is that
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.840
keep the main thing the main thing.
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.660
How is this going to help Black folks? How is it going to help my Black family?
00:34:37.540 --> 00:34:41.880
Period. because when I was saying that the Republican Party...
00:34:45.081 --> 00:34:49.601
You can make the case that the Democratic Party takes us for granted because
00:34:49.601 --> 00:34:53.081
we're going to give them 80 to 90% of the vote every election.
00:34:54.381 --> 00:34:57.581
But that's not given willy-nilly.
00:34:59.561 --> 00:35:03.501
Again, if I reach out to a Democratic elected official and say,
00:35:03.601 --> 00:35:07.141
hey, I need you to look at that, it's going to be looked at.
00:35:07.641 --> 00:35:12.301
They might try to tweak it, might try to curry some favor and compromise with
00:35:12.301 --> 00:35:16.041
their Republican friends to get some semblance of what we want done.
00:35:16.681 --> 00:35:19.041
But at least we'll get the audience.
00:35:21.180 --> 00:35:26.080
Gotten so bad that if you're not Republican, period, doesn't matter if you're
00:35:26.080 --> 00:35:29.920
black, white, purple, or green, they're not going to give you the time of day.
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:36.560
They literally now have it set up where lobbyists only talk to Republicans in
00:35:36.560 --> 00:35:37.880
Republican majority states.
00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:43.520
They don't want 100% vote. They just want something passed.
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:49.300
When I was in the legislature, they talked to all of us, each and every one of us.
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:55.660
Now, there's strategies. You've got to get the chairman to bring it up and blah, blah, all that.
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.380
But it's kind of embarrassing.
00:35:58.600 --> 00:36:03.180
You bring something to get the chair to bring it out in committee and you ain't
00:36:03.180 --> 00:36:04.440
talk to none of the Democrats.
00:36:05.140 --> 00:36:11.200
And they all saying horrible things about the bill. And most of those committee meetings are public.
00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:17.260
So now the press and citizens are going to hear that, wait a minute,
00:36:17.420 --> 00:36:21.700
this thing is not what they said it was going to be, and that raises doubt.
00:36:22.120 --> 00:36:28.620
But if you're a good lobbyist, you try to convince folks on both sides, it's really a good idea.
00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:33.600
Not going to get everybody, but you might if you make an effort.
00:36:34.160 --> 00:36:38.320
But that's not the political climate we're in, which is even more reason why
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.720
this judicial decision,
00:36:41.060 --> 00:36:49.220
no matter how my so-called white intellectual conservative friends want to spin it, is dumb as hell.
00:36:49.900 --> 00:36:53.220
Because it goes against the very premise of their argument.
00:36:53.700 --> 00:36:57.820
They want to say that America has evolved in such a way, John Roberts actually
00:36:57.820 --> 00:37:03.960
said that, that America has evolved such a way in race that we don't need these
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.860
protections anymore. You don't need that.
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.520
You, the same court, had to make a decision to,
00:37:13.357 --> 00:37:19.737
a president. Now, I want them to understand, I know they were doing it for Donald
00:37:19.737 --> 00:37:25.977
Trump, but the way it's worded, it's a president, because they couldn't word it any other way.
00:37:26.817 --> 00:37:31.257
So, if a Democratic president comes in after Donald Trump and does exactly the
00:37:31.257 --> 00:37:35.197
same thing that he does, they can't say anything. They'll try.
00:37:36.137 --> 00:37:40.777
People will file lawsuits and all that stuff, but you gave them immunity.
00:37:41.677 --> 00:37:47.517
So if you gave somebody immunity to do whatever they want, and then you weakened
00:37:47.517 --> 00:37:52.777
the laws to protect the people that probably be the targets of his illegal acts,
00:37:53.677 --> 00:37:55.257
has the climate changed?
00:37:56.217 --> 00:38:00.577
No. And if it had changed, you just set it backwards.
00:38:01.517 --> 00:38:06.037
But anyway, like I was saying, these folks that filed a suit didn't even have
00:38:06.037 --> 00:38:09.057
standing to bring it. but it was entertained.
00:38:09.357 --> 00:38:14.617
And once the court entertains it, then the argument is standing, doesn't matter.
00:38:15.597 --> 00:38:21.097
We literally had the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court, make a decision on a
00:38:21.097 --> 00:38:25.877
lawsuit filed based on a hypothetical situation.
00:38:26.597 --> 00:38:31.657
No tort was committed. There was no harm at all.
00:38:32.137 --> 00:38:38.757
What if such and such happened and the Supreme Court made a ruling on that.
00:38:39.377 --> 00:38:42.317
That's how crazy the times that we're in.
00:38:43.037 --> 00:38:48.317
They always used to say when, even with the Warren Court, they would say,
00:38:48.437 --> 00:38:52.537
oh, you know, these are activist judges and we got to get away from them and da-da-da-da.
00:38:53.577 --> 00:38:56.637
The initial GOP stands for.
00:38:58.697 --> 00:39:00.377
Games of Projection.
00:39:02.374 --> 00:39:08.034
Because what they say that they're against, the truth of the matter is,
00:39:08.254 --> 00:39:13.314
is that they actually afford, they're just mad that they're not the ones doing it.
00:39:13.974 --> 00:39:18.874
If you hear Republicans say, oh, I'm tired of these activist judges,
00:39:18.874 --> 00:39:22.914
what they're really saying is, I really wish one of our people was in there
00:39:22.914 --> 00:39:26.674
to do exactly the same thing for our folks. That's it.
00:39:27.334 --> 00:39:32.174
Anytime the president says something, accuses somebody of something, he's done it.
00:39:32.374 --> 00:39:39.914
He's upset because a grown man, for whatever reason, assembled seashells on
00:39:39.914 --> 00:39:43.874
the seashore and spelled out the numbers 8, 6, 4, 7.
00:39:44.514 --> 00:39:47.774
He took that as a threat. Why?
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Because he has said 86 somebody.
00:39:52.074 --> 00:39:57.414
That's what he, when he says it, he means do harm to him.
00:39:58.034 --> 00:40:02.114
That's not what the connotation means.
00:40:03.234 --> 00:40:07.274
It's a restaurant term that's gotten into the lexicon.
00:40:08.374 --> 00:40:12.194
But he said that's what gangsters say. No, no, that's what you say.
00:40:12.834 --> 00:40:17.434
That's your interpretation of it. So when somebody throws it back at you, you get offended.
00:40:17.914 --> 00:40:21.514
Now you're saying he's trying to kill me. That's crazy talk, man.
00:40:22.074 --> 00:40:29.374
And we got folks, people that some of us used to respect, saying,
00:40:29.374 --> 00:40:31.694
that's right, Mr. President, you go get them.
00:40:32.414 --> 00:40:34.814
That's insanity, bro. That's where we are.
00:40:35.814 --> 00:40:39.354
Behavior that wouldn't have been tolerated when I was elected.
00:40:40.334 --> 00:40:44.774
Frowned upon. You couldn't even make it out of the primary. You probably wouldn't
00:40:44.774 --> 00:40:45.974
even be allowed to qualify.
00:40:46.994 --> 00:40:49.334
Now it's like, oh, God.
00:40:50.231 --> 00:40:54.751
Do what you want. And this is the environment where the Supreme Court is making
00:40:54.751 --> 00:40:58.731
an argument and saying, yeah, well, we don't need any protections at all.
00:40:59.411 --> 00:41:04.271
Everything's fine. They're just like the dog sitting at the table when the house is on fire.
00:41:05.011 --> 00:41:06.711
Everything's fine. We're good.
00:41:07.631 --> 00:41:19.571
Craziness, you know? But I just, I just wish that, well, let me say this. I shouldn't say wish.
00:41:20.011 --> 00:41:29.511
I pray that people are paying attention and they will act accordingly, right?
00:41:30.131 --> 00:41:35.711
When the season first came out, I posted a couple of Bible verses,
00:41:36.351 --> 00:41:41.171
one from 2 Corinthians, not 2 Corinthians, Mr.
00:41:41.271 --> 00:41:45.091
President, 2 Corinthians, and from Galatians.
00:41:45.251 --> 00:41:50.311
The one from 2 Corinthians, people are familiar with, the battle is not yours, it's the Lord.
00:41:51.791 --> 00:41:58.231
And from Galatians, it was the verse that says, basically says,
00:41:58.371 --> 00:42:02.031
if we don't get weary, we'll win.
00:42:03.151 --> 00:42:07.831
And so Galatians 6.9 is more relevant,
00:42:07.831 --> 00:42:13.811
even to those who are not spiritual, because what
00:42:13.811 --> 00:42:20.831
this group of people that have spawned out of the 68 Southern Strategy and the
00:42:20.831 --> 00:42:27.891
72 Power Memo have evolved into is a group of folks that want us to get tired
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of fighting and just submit,
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just say we can't win and we'll just do whatever you want,
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man, just so I can watch my ESPN and go to work, drive my.
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Take my kid to a ball game, whatever. Get to eat a Nobu once a year or something,
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you know, or the varsity, whatever your pleasure is, right?
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That's what they want us to do. They want us to just say, oh,
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well, I guess that's that.
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Keep our head down and keep moving.
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But Galatians 6.9 basically reminds us that as long as you keep fighting,
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as long as you don't get tired, as long as you don't get weary,
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The reward is coming. You're going to win.
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Victory is on the way.
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So, you know, I'm a believer, so that's what keeps me going.
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You know, I think, you know, people disappoint us. Yeah.
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Because familiarity breeds contempt among people.
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But you cannot let it stop you from doing what you're doing.
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If they don't buy in the vision, that's their loss. They don't want to get on
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the train, they've missed it.
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So that's something I have to always remember, and I hope that's something that you take to heart.
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But when it comes to fighting for our freedoms and our rights,
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and it's pretty obvious that people that you're around don't respect those freedoms
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and your rights, you have the right to kick them to the curb.
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You have the right to tell them to step off.
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You have the right to tell them don't cross that line. It's time now.
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And I think it's up to individuals whether they want to forgive them afterwards or not.
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I'm not. I'm too old.
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I don't need a whole lot of friends at this particular point.
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I don't know if I'm going to outlive
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people to come to my funeral or if anybody ever is going to show up.
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It's not going to matter because I'm going to be gone and I won't know.
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But too old to worry about friendships and alliances and being popular with
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the next guy, being the cool kid. I'm too old for that.
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But since I'm still alive, I still want to have freedom.
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I still want to be able to make choices, whether that's in my lifestyle or at
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the voting booth. I want to be able, or what I eat.
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I want to have choices. I want to have the freedom to do that.
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I don't want the government. I don't want any obscure white person.
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I don't want anybody telling me what I can or cannot do.
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You can advise me like you probably don't want to go skyjumping,
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Eric. Okay, I'll take that advice. with.
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I can't do it. And there's no restriction other than you saying I can't.
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If I want to sit at this counter and eat, I'm going to sit there.
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Now, unless the Department of Health has shut it down, I'm going to eat there. Right?
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If I want to vote by mail, I'm going to do that. You can't tell me I can't.
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If I want to celebrate Kwanzaa and Hanukkah and Christmas at my house,
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I'm going to do that. You can't tell me I can't.
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And when these people finally get it in their thick skulls, they can't tell people what to do.
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They can't subjugate people. They can't bully folks anymore.
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America will be way better off. We really will be the shining city on the hill.
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But the hill that these people want to die on has many labels.
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Some people call it fascism. Some people call it authoritarianism.
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Some people call it Christian nationalism.
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Some people call it white supremacy.
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They're all interchangeable for me. It's all the same thing.
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Other people can compartmentalize that. That's fine. It's all the same for me.
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If you want to deny me my opportunity to either be a representative elected
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official, or to vote for somebody that looks like me to be one,
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we're not good, and never will be.
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And folks say, well, that sounds like an emotional argument.
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Yeah, it is, because I've had relatives fight for the right for me to be in
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the position that I was in.
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Yeah, it's emotional because, and I've told this story before,
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that when my great-aunt passed, and.
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I presented a proclamation at the funeral. People
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applauded because most of
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them had left Mississippi under the
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cloud of Jim Crow and to see somebody in their family as an elected official
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that looked like them present a resolution from the state that they fled from
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to honor this relative who had passed on. Yeah, it's emotional.
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There's a tie to this. And we can get in the weeds about legality and legislation
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and all that stuff. It's great.
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I'll go toe-to-toe with anybody. I don't have to go to law school to understand
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bullshit when I see it. But, yeah, it's emotional, too.
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People died for this, man. We had a man in the United States Congress that still
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has a scar on his head, fighting for the right to vote.
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And now the very state where he was from and the very state that he represented.
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We got people saying, we got opportunity to take away their vote again.
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That's craziness, man. That's a sickness.
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You can couch it however you want. You can puff up your chest.
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You can be mad. You can be hostile.
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You can, whatever. You can call me everything and anything.
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You the one in the mirror that's looking at the silly person.
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I'm not. And these other black folks are not.
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Some folks are going to keep it close to the vest. Some of us are going to have a podcast.
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Some of us are elected officials and are having press conferences and Zoom calls.
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But you're going to know that we're tired of this mess. We are tired of it.
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My generation is supposed to be the first ones to benefit, and we did. Imagine,
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a black mayor in Chicago. My generation participated in the first black man
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being president of the United States.
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My generation participated in the first black person, black woman being vice
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president of the United States. My generation did that.
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My generation has put two U.S. senators, female senators in at the same time.
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Black women, all six of them have been in my lifetime.
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All the members of the Black Caucus was in my lifetime.
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The Black Caucus was formed in my lifetime.
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So yeah, it's emotional, and we're not giving it up without a fight.
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No matter how you skew it, no matter how you try to divide us,
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you can stick all the faces that look like us out there on Fox News and Newsmax and OAN.
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You can get arrogant people like Scott Jennings and others to smirk their way
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through an argument, but it is not going to get us to end our fight.
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We will not lose our resolve.
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Y'all done overplayed your hand. I told a guy, you've played your hand.
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Now it's time for us to play ours.
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And if you hurt once we play it, If you've been taken down a notch,
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once we play our hand, so be it.
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See, Malcolm X gave you an option. He gave you an option.
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And it seems like you want to choose the latter, right?
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Remember the option, the ballot or the bullet? Y'all remember that?
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He gave you the option. Now,
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Like, you accepted the ballot option. But then, that black man got elected president.
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Y'all tolerated us being in Congress. You tolerated us being in state legislatures.
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You tolerated us getting a few governorships.
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You definitely tolerated us being mayors.
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But that black man got to be president. And then, that black woman came,
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got to be vice president. And y'all lost y'all shit.
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And y'all are willing to tear this whole thing.
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On the 250th anniversary of American independence, y'all ready to tear it all down, destroy it,
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because the descendants of slaves and African immigrants ascended to positions
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of power. That's trifling, man.
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So when people say the American dream is a lie, why do y'all get upset?
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Y'all are the ones that make it a lot.
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If you leave us alone, and I've made this appeal ever since I've had this podcast,
00:52:05.492 --> 00:52:10.852
if you just leave us alone, let us live our lives, let us pursue what we're
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going to pursue, whether we want to be a star in the National Basketball League or an astronaut.
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Leave us alone and let us do our thing. If we can make it, we'll make it. If we can't, we can't.
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If we get accepted to Harvard, cool. If all I want to do is go to Heinz Community College, great.
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Just leave us alone.
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If I could just sum up all of this stuff,
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whether it's dealing with taking away historical landmarks or changing the rules
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about voting or taking away hiring practices or just arresting us while we're driving.
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Or mistakenly using a counterfeit bill instead of a regular bill,
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regular dollar bill, right?
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Would just stop messing with us, if he would just leave us alone.
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See, because Booker T wanted us to just go on and just do our thing.
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But what he didn't realize was that they were still going to mess with us, right?
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Because when he spoke at the Cotton Exposition here in Atlanta,
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he was saying, And if you let black folks do their thing, we can get along.
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And 30 years later, a black business district in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is burnt to the ground.
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We're doing our own thing. But you wouldn't leave us alone.
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Around that time, Marcus Garvey was like, well, look, you know,
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we've seen Liberia happen. We've seen Sierra Leone happen.
00:53:53.988 --> 00:53:58.128
How about we just gather all the black folks up and we just leave.
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We go back to that continent called Africa. That'll be our message.
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We just go on and leave. Let y'all have America.
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You put the brother in jail. Said he was defrauding on stocks.
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.299
Kind of like what they're saying about the SPLC, right? That they're defrauding
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donors. And that's the same kind of argument.
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And you put the brother in jail in Atlanta.
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Because you won't leave us alone.
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If you let Marcus Garvey do his thing, I'd be doing my podcast probably somewhere
00:54:32.619 --> 00:54:38.639
in Ghana, Liberia, I don't know, somewhere. I wouldn't be here.
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But you wouldn't leave us alone.
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If you want power, ask for it.
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Don't take it. Ask. We might vote for it. But we got to get something in return.
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Every black person I know wants to live in a crime free neighborhood.
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They want their kids to go to good schools.
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They want to be able to afford to eat and pay rent and go to the dock?
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I don't know black folks that don't want that. Why is that hard to do?
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Because some of your rich folks says, let them eat cake.
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Got more important things to do, like build a ballroom, right?
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You want to listen to those people instead of listening to us.
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Again, man, when the Supreme Court makes decisions like this,
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when Congress passes laws and then says stupid stuff like we're the grown-ups in the room,
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I guess because you're punishing us, I guess that's why you make us grown-ups,
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make ourselves grown-ups. Just understand.
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And I'm, who was that? Who said that? I can't remember.
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Was it Wesley Snipes? Said always bet on black? Yeah.
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You can put that on Cal Shee, you can put on prize picks or whatever.
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Bet on black. We're going to win.
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I don't know how long the fight's going to be. It's been ongoing.
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We've won some battles, some major battles. Now, y'all trying to negate those,
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force us to retreat, force us to shrink, but we won't.
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We're not going to get tired. We're going to keep coming.
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And the sooner that you understand that, the sooner that you embrace the concept
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that it's best to leave these folks alone, I promise you, America will be a
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much better place. So like I.













